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>> gregg: this is a fox news alert. i'm gregg jarrett. louisiana governor bobby jindal declaring a state of emergency. hurricane ida barreling toward the coast. strengthening to a category 2 storm. in the last several hours, winds clocking in at 100 miles an hour. they say ida could get a lot stronger. storm triggering deadly floods and mudslides in el salvador. 90 people are dead and 60 are missing and now the deadly storm has a brand-new target. domenica d d d davis is live ine weather center. >> everybody along the gulf coast is going to be need on the alert for this storm for the next 48 hours. here is the contrast. we have an advisory coming up at 3:00. this is a category 2 and expected to stay a category 2
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through monday. then we're going to see it start to lose some steam as it moves further into the gulf. here is the latest track, a landfall somewhere between louisiana and the western part of the florida panhandle. it's still a little bit out here. we still have a ways to go. but it looks like it will be close to the florida with the landfall right now. we are going to be looking at some very strong winds with this powerful system that continues to move to the north. winds that will be anywhere from 40-60 miles an hour and those will be felt by late tonight, and tomorrow and much of tomorrow. here is the hurricane watches all from new orleans also the way over to mexico beach, florida. you can expect those to stay in place for the next 24-48 hours. here is a wider view. high pressure is blocking the southeast. this is going to help steer this storm a little bit more to the
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north. that is what we are expecting to see a right-hand turn with this system. rainfall will be pretty significant along the coastal areas and that rain is going to start to move in from this system by tomorrow morning. so what we will see is upwards of six inches of rain along the immediate coast and then by late monday into tuesday as the system spreads further inland, widespread rainfall of two to four inches. a lot to watch. we'll update you in the next hour and tell you what is going on. >> gregg: domenica davis, thanks very much. >> julie: senate leaders calling for a thorough investigation into the fort hood shootings. joe lieberman telling chris wallace he wants to find out whether they missed warning signs before the attack. they are warning against a rush to judgment concerning suspect major nadal hasan with an undie
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backlash of muslims serving in the military. hi catherine. >> they are emphasizing that the investigation shall in preliminary stages and no conclusions have been reached. the chairman of the senate homeland security committee which has been briefed tells fox news sunday he will move forward on a criminal investigation to determine whether there were warning signs that hasan was a radicalized muslim. the senator is questioning whether the alleged shooter is an example of home-grown terrorism. >> if the reports that we're receiving of various statements he made, acts he took are valid, he had turned to islamic extremism. if that is true the murder of these 13 people was a terrorist
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act. in fact, it was the most destructive terrorist act to be committed on american soil since 9/11. >> reporter: as you may remember in the aftermath of shootings, army officials said eyewitnesses said that he shouted the words god is great in arabic. they are investigating whether he made internet postings but no conclusions have been reached. army chief of staff warned of reaching any conclusions at such an early stage. >> i tell you, i worry a little bit about speculation like this based on anecdotes. they are professional investigators looking at this. they have 170 interviews and they will look at all this and help us form a judgment. right now it's way too soon to be drawing conclusions. >> reporter: an official says no
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one is dismissing the possibility of overseas connections, adding they have reached no conclusions at this stage. >> julie: thank you very much. meanwhile, the army vie die terrorist is said to be off a hospital ventilator. that word coming in last night. no word yet if hasan is speaking to investigators. the motive in the attack which killed 13 people is still not determined. we've got rick live at fort hood what is the latest on the investigation? >> the army criminal investigation which has the lead in this case is still processing the crime scene trying to re-create every step and move he made. he did act alone and not have any help. there was no evidence of friendly fire if this case. they believe he fired more than
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100 rounds. he carried two handguns, a .357 and an automatic pistol is capable of carrying 30 rounds. that may have been the primary weapon used in the shooting. they have confirmed five of the 13 killed was other mental health professionals. >> julie: how are the soldiers coping? >> it's very difficult time for the base. they are an army of one. they brought in chaplains and we've seen a lot of volunteers. there was a bunch of family members, other soldiers bringing supplies, mostly food to the 20th battalion which was heavily involved in this shooting. 21 individuals were in the area when the gunfire rang out. four members of the battalion were killed, five are still hospitalized. this unit is scheduled for
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deployment in afghanistan and they are getting some help from family members. >> julie: any more hint of a motive? >> we've heard a lot that he was deeply disturbed about the war on terror, calling it a war on islam. there are some lawmakers as we heard from the captain and also hearing on the ground that suggested this was an act of terror. one of those lawmakers, here is what he said yesterday. >> i think it's premeditated when he purchased those guns and how much ammunition he would need. it was a high concentration of indefended soldiers would be. i'm note going to go it was a planned attack by al-qaeda but i would consider it an act of war. >> reporter: president obama is scheduled to take part in a memorial ceremony on the post on tuesday. they are getting ready to build a stage, an area where the
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ceremony is going to take place. >> julie: president and first lady expected to attend, as well. thank you very much >> gregg: house of representatives passing the health care reform bill by just a couple votes. if the u.s. senate passes a compromise between those two bills will have to eventually be made. the final legislation could be very different on what the house just voted on. what is likely to change and will health care be harder to pass in the second time around. joining us now republican congressman brian bill bray and and palone. the president said she absolutely convinced that the
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senate will pass health care reform. will it? will it bear any resemblance to the house bill? >> they will. i'm convinced they will because i think most of us most of us realize with the status yeo and major problems with people not having insurance. basic framework will be the same. health exchange with private and public options that people can go to find affordable insurance that doesn't discriminate because of preexisting conditions or gender or other discrimination that exists now. in many ways, i think it will be pretty much the same bill. >> gregg: what i'm hearing it's not close to be the same bill because in the senate side government run health care insurance program, they don't have the votes for that. there are enough people that are dead set against that. what is it going to happen? >> what is it going to happen
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they are going to try to keep the presidents promise to keep the price tag down, it's over a trillion. they are going to try -- the senate will put back in faced bill on education to make sure 17 million illegals that the president said was not going to be in the system is not going to have that system. you have to that verification system or you can't look the voters in the face and say they are not included. i think they are going to see tort reform, $54 billion saving for health care that something we can really jump in to. right now this bill punishes those states like california and texas where our voters like california have put tort limitations in so health care system. affordability is the biggest barrier. if we don't reduce costs we can't provide it. >> gregg: and here is what
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candice miller, a colleague had to say. i'll quote hear. we're going to have a government takeover faster than you can say. this is making me sick. to pay for this, again, affordability. it cuts medicare projected spending by more than $400 billion. can we really afford that kind of a cut on the backs of senior citizens? >> basically those are savings because abuse, fraud and other mistakes in the current system under medicare. basically what we're doing. >> gregg: are you sure? >> we're saving that money from medicare. >> gregg: and you are willing to commit right here and now this is not going to cut benefits to seniors? >> no, absolutely. the money that we save is going to be put back in benefits so seniors get prescription drugs
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and eliminates copayments for preventative services like mammogram screenings and also we're going to be increasing the reimbursement rates for doctors and hospitals so they will take medicare patients. >> gregg: what about medicare advantage? >> we're going to equal the playing field. whether you have medicare advantage or just traditional knee for service, the amount we pay out will be the same. there has been a lot of abuse in that system as well. >> gregg: do you agree with that >> medicare advantage, just got accepted and they would trim it down to nothing as possible. the fact is we want to work together. let's work on the waste, fraud and abuse. we're willing to do first all the things that we promised to do again and again but never get around to. i don't see any reason at all why we can't have a bill that
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reduce costs by going after fraud. only after we've proven to do that. >> gregg: you republicans put forth your own alternative bill. the problem is that insurers would be able to deny coverage for people with preexisting medical problems. that is just dead in the water. why would you put forth a bill with something that everybody is opposed to? >> absolutely not. what you do is you create pools to allow those that are the high risk preexisting conditions to be able to go into those pools. biggest issue is being able to get the save that $54 billion. that is a price tag that we can go. also, i mean one thing about this bill that nobody knew about was on page 130, 131, health insurance companies are exempt from liability for wrongful
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death if they deny service. i don't think frank or any other democrat knows that this is in. as time goes on and democrats are able to read it before january before the senate takes it up, there will be a whole lot of things, we go oops. >> we've read this thing in detail. all forms of discrimination are eliminated under the democratic bill and they still exist under the republican bill, preexisting conditions because in charging more for women instead of men or preexisting conditions, allowing insurance companies to rescind your policy, all those things are out in the democratic bill and still exist in the republican bill. >> gregg: gentlemen, thank you so much. thank you so much and good to see you both. >> julie: an attack on a nato supply convoy in afghanistan. [ siren ]
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they say they went after fuel tank there's were going to provide fuel for nato forces. two private security guards were hurt as two trucks exploded in flames. they were traveling between pakistan and kabul, afghanistan. >> gregg: saudi arabian officials declaring victory against rebels. bombard ago rebel stronghold right along the yemen border. she'ite rebels have been fighting for independence from the central government for several years. saudi officials have grown worried that extremism and instability in that region could spill into saudi arabia. they say dozens were killed in five days of fighting. >> julie: big celebrations going across germany.
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secretary of state hillary clinton will join a long list of leaders there, including soviet president mikhail gorbachev credited with helping to end communism. >> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall! >> amy, what are the plans for tomorrow. >> reporter: the big visual plan is to have a huge display of 1,000 domino that has is set up along the path of the old wall fall down all at once. they are quite big, seven to eight feet high, it's to symbolize wall coming down. what they saw led to is not just the reunification of germany but
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the reunification of europe. >> what does that mean for the germans? >> so many people have said this week, including the former chancellor, germans don't have a lot to be proud of in their history. reunification is their proudest moment. it's interesting to point out, tomorrow which is the 20th anniversary the fall of the wall is also the anniversary of a much grimmer date. the night of the broken glass in 1938 when the nazis ordered properties by jews snatched. it haunts so many for world war ii particularly the younger generation. what a lot of people have said to me reunification, the fall of the wall and all of the good things that happened after that really had restored a lot of
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german pride and self-confidence. it's not been an easy process. it's not been an easy transition. some of the older people who weren't able to grab on the capitalist bandwagon have a lot of nostalgia. they conveniently forget, secret police, people informed upon and watched, but they miss that security. for the fact for a while there was a big disparity between east and west. that is starting to even out now. it's interesting because people have said here in berlin it feels the most celebratory with the fall of the wall. it's not necessarily symbolic but at this moment they think they have turned the corner and the country is really feeling completely reunified. >> julie: amy, thank you very much. >> gregg: army chief of staff
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george casey is the latest top official to call on president obama to send more troops into afghanistan. no official decision is yet out of the white house. president's advisors are drawing up three options. when can we expect the president's final decision? we will be talking to general bob scales coming up next. yg;wwgkóçó37wcwówg'çówóço
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>> julie: more troops could be on the way to afghanistan. president obama is weighing three options all of them calling for an increase in forces. as he moves closer to his decision, military leaders are speaking out. george casey lending his support for sending additional troops. listen. >> believe we need to put additional forces into afghanistan to give general mcchrystal the ability to dampen the successes of the taliban. >> julie: what are those tree options? joining me is bob scales a fox military analyst. thank you very much for talking
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to us. so why don't you lay out the president's three options that he has in afghanistan for us? >> there are three options. as you say, option number one, the all in option, 40-45,000, and then there is a lightion. probably somewhere around 10-15,000. this is force that is principally focused on counterterrorism and couple bring gates to train the afghan forces then the probable solution, 15,000 to 25,000 which is a little bit of all three. combat forces, few brigades to try to reestablish of kandahar provinces and the northeast. a brigade to train the afghans with a small contingent of counterterrorism forces. folks in the pentagon. >> julie: the army remains out of balance, that is a quote. military leaders say the
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repeated long combat deployments have put a strain on u.s. armed forces. obviously decision need to be made and quick. it seems that the president has been focused on lately getting the health care reform bill passed. last night it did, but it still needs to go to the senate floor, but he a seems to be preoccupied with this. when do you see a decision finally made? >> two quick points. you've seen as a side story at fort hood. american people have had a closer look at the stress that is on the army right now. the story is only beginning to be told. we have units, if we do surge, that will in the fourth, fifth and sixth. we don't have any evidence how much longer the army can indo you remember these active deployments. other issue is uncertainty. most of the families who i talk to are concerned less with the
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number of troops that are going to be deployed then the uncertainty and waiting among military families as they wait to find out when their husband or wife is going to be deployed. it's not so much the numbers as it is the uncertainty that is causing additional stress in places like fort hood. >> julie: now the election has been settled in afghanistan, how is it going to effect the added troops. will their mission change? >> no, not really. if you look at the three missions, counterterrorism, to assist and train and active combat, those three will remain the same. balance between the missions and where the forces will be deployed, of course, is an open question. the key now is time. remember now the snows begin to melt in the mountain pennsylvania in late march and early april. we have to begin to put combat forces on the ground by the time taliban starts their campaign in afghanistan. the time is approaching when
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that decision has to be made in order to go through the many month long process to notify, train, deploy and employ those forces. >> julie: we have to go. do you think it's going to be made before the end of the year? >> -- oh, gosh it has to be made. i think probably before the end of november. >> gregg: unemployment numbers sailing past 10% to hit the highest levels since 1983. couple years before you were born, are we seeing a repeat of that decade economic woes. business guro is going to be weighing in that. and cancelling what would have been a joint appearance since president bush left office. wait until you hear what caused them to bail. we'll tell you next.
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>> julie: bottom of the hour, time for top of the news, investigators in texas are trying to piece together the events that led to a deadly shooting last thursday. so many shots were fired. they are asking people who left the scene that day to check their vehicles for gunshot damage. meantime, joe lieberman says he wants an a congressional investigation to determine if the suspect that major hasan was an islamic extremist. >> gregg: death toll is rising in el salvador, mudslides, 90 people are dead. the storm is headed toward the gulf coast. >> julie: suicide bomber blows himself up in northwest pakistan. 12 people are killed including a local mayor who opposed the taliban. a folks man for the taliban the mayor was targeted for interfering in our matter.
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>> gregg: america may be one step closer to most expansive overhaul of health care in more than 40 years thanks to the passage of the one trillion dollar house health care bill, but there are big steps before it becomes law. julie is live in washington. what happens next? >> it shifts to the senate. harry reid says he is waiting for official report on how much some of the options passed by the senate committees would cost and if the bill is to too expensive. it may differ in substantial ways, still in question is whether reid can get support for a public option of government health care option. so if a means tough work ahead when the two bodies get together in conference. >> gregg: the president got involved in the process in the house. he was there, on capitol hill. he was twisting arms. he is meeting people behind
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closed doors. do we expect him to do the same on the other side of the hill. >> reporter: oh, yeah, he was calling lawmakers. he went to capitol hill. i think we can expect some of the same. enough of the spotlight has shifted to the senate. he was talking about that in the rose garden this afternoon. the president. >> i am equally convinced on the day that we gather here at the white house, i sign comprehensive health insurance into law they will join their house colleagues and they'll say this is the finest moment in public service. we delivered change that we promised to the american people. >> reporter: by the way, after the bill passed last night the president said at a fund-raising in a group organizing america, next phase of the fight is already underway. insurance companies are pushing to bury the bill so the fight goes on.
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>> gregg: the hand was sticking out there for a little green backs late at night. thanks very much. >> julie: 13-year-old boy that had court ordered chemotherapy is now said to be cancer free. you may remember him and his mother refused the treatment for religious reasons. laura ingle has more. >> reporter: it has been a fierce and public battle for daniel howser, after radiation session they still sound happy with how it went down. he fled the state with his mother after refusing to continue with chemotherapy treatments based on the religion and desired to seek out natural remedies. he was diagnosed with hodgkin's lymphoma and had one treatment when he stopped. they say he was medically
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neglected and ordered to continue treatments for their son. in may a warrant was issued for her arrest. many believe that the mother and son were head forward alternative treatment. they worked out a deal to help them return to minnesota where he received the rest of his treatment. it targeted the tumor and the family claims he is now in remission. >> don't want to put poison in to me anyway. >> it went so well even the doctors are impressed that he did so well. >> reporter: in a statement, children's hospital given the successful conclusion of the treatment, he has a 95% of being cured at this point. it's not over yet. the legal case, the judge says he would like to see a written statement from brown county
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family services and from the doctor confirming he has completed treatment before he dismisses this case. >> julie: all right, laura ingle thank you very much. >> gregg: no deal on the horizon to end a strike that has severely disrupted travel in philadelphia. the city's largest transit union walking out after contract negotiations broke down. making it difficult for hundreds of thousands of commuters to get around. regional commuter rails continue to operate because of their workers are in a different union but a pair of accidents have slowed or stopped service on those trains. wednesday, a fire broke out on a train car in west philadelphia the following day. a rail inspector was killed while walking out on the tracks disrupting service along the lines for several hours. >> julie: unwelcome news for last minute holiday travelers. airfares are 4% below last year's prices and they are
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hiking fares as much as 50% for popular routes. carriers are pushing higher fees and industry analysts say there are ways to ease the dent on your wallet. using frequent flyer miles or check yrg bag online at the airport. >> gregg: gloomy news on the job front bringing back back memories of the 1980s. government announcing on friday that the unemployment rate hit double digits. last time the jobless crossed into this territory, ronald reagan was president. julie was cheerleader, is it really deja-vu for those out of work? let's ask ed, good to see you, ed. we have tripled the national debt in the last 25 years. we now have less than half of
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the savings that we did back in the 1980s. are the unemployed for vulnerable with bankruptcy and foreclosure? >> absolutely. we have three times more debt. we have half the savings. this happens basically the world economy got it. out of nowhere it was a big punch into the economy. now, we are seeing the remnants of the residual effect of what took place here. this is worse than the early 80s. i don't think it's going to get better. >> gregg: i well remember the recession of 1981 and 1982. there is an index, misery index. basically if you add up real gdp unemployment and inflation and mortgage rates you get what is known as the misery index.
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and they did the figures. misery index back in 81-82 recession was 11.0. right now it's hovering somewhere around 11-12. we're not nearly as miserable as we were back then. conditions were worse back then. we think it's worse now because it's immediate. we feel it now. it's affecting us now. we have short memories? >> that is exactly right. it's precisely the point we do have short term focus right now. ask the people that are unemployed right now and what the prognosis of them getting jobs and it's going to get worse. with the health care debate raging on and on, i don't think employers are going to start hiring people because they don't have any trans as to what is it going to take place. so i think we're going to be stalled for quite some time. >> speaking of what happened last night, if it comes to
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fruition, a lot things are going to happen. if there ends up being a mandatory insurance, have been has to have it, and employers are required to provide it for their employees and the alternatives they pay 8% payroll tax, do you fear that those employers say, hey, i'm going to pay that 8% payroll tax. i'm going to dump my employees on to the government plan? >> yes, i think that is going to happen. this whole debate i believe really has slowed things down. i do believe this is keeping a lot of employers from hiring. i look to hire people and look at my health care costs, and i decide not to hire people because of that. major employers, wall street is looking at earnings every single quarter. there is a lot of reasons for companies not to be hiring at this point. >> gregg: quick one for you,
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benefits are higher than they were before for those who are unemployed. there is the internet which is an invaluable tool in locating new employment. is that the silver lining? >> it does help. i am looking for people via the internet. one thing we do have the internet. it does allow people to look for jobs all around the world. so that is a benefit, but right now i still think misery index as you say looks worse, i'll say this is bad. it's not going to get better soon. >> gregg: i got my misery index thing. yellow line is the 1980s which i remember. i was lucky to be employed back then. >> julie: i was lucky to make it into the seventh grade actually. i was thrilled about that. >> gregg: you are dating yourself. >> julie: i'm just saying. >> let's figure it out. >> julie: you said cheerleader, i was never a cheerleader.
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i wasn't that kind of girl. i was a band nerd. much cooler. former president bill clinton and george w. bush backing out of a joint appearance in two major cities, but first time, it's not because the two men disagree with one another. they didn't like the way their appearances were being promoted. a spokesman for clinton saying a promoter billed the event as hottest ticket in political history but it was moderated panel discussion. they cancelled their appearances in l.a. and new york. >> gregg: this promoter said it's going to be a death match between the two which is preposterous. >> it was congressional theater at its best. you were watching. the house panel, the house passing a landmark bill putting
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the health care agenda one step closer to pass. the impact on the american public, the latest poll numbers and a whole lot more, three interests in. >> julie: scott joins us with the polls coming up right after the break. want to know how fast it took my stiff joints to feel better?
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>> gregg: a deadly helicopter crash in california. it happened in san bernardino, 70 miles north of los angeles. federal investigators say this vintage helicopter took off at the airport, saturday morning, bound for the city of riverside when it hit power lines bursting into flames. all three people on board died. no word on the identity of the victims. faa records show the chopper is registered to joseph pike of victorville, california. they are now investigators on now on the scene. >> julie: it was a major party
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battle last night in congress, as the war over health care reform continues, majority of americans are not expecting a change anytime soon. apparently, take a look at this. according to a recent poll by rasmussen, 55% of americans expect washington will grow even more partisan, while 23% expect politics to become more cooperative. turning now to president of rasmussen reports, scott rasmussen, thank you always for coming on. so it seems that americans don't necessarily have a lot of faith in the so-called bipartisanship in washington. they have made their vote and looking forward to the senate. according to americans it's not going to be an even split decision? >> not at all, 53% think he governing in a partisanship manner. one thing in to keep in mind one
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of rare times, just about every person in congress voted the way their districts go. a lot of more liberal democratic districts they like the bill. congress was partisan because the districts are divide order a partisan basis. >> julie: recent elections were very exciting. a lot of people are wondering what is it going to happen to the gop. can the gop take over congress. what do people think? >> 49% say at least somewhat likely the republicans will take control of congress. 18% it's very likely. there is still a luggage hooj partisan divide. six out of ten people in the president's party say they expect their party to make further gains next year. >> julie: i don't want to think about the next presidential election but apparently americans already are. who do they think is going to be in office. they don't have a name but a
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party in mind. >> we asked which party will win the white house after barack obama, so it could be 2012 or 2016. what we're seeing in previous data, republicans were devastated and down in january. they have been re-energized in the last eight or nine months so there is more optimism. >> julie: duwtd duntd that seem to be the case. you are never happy with what you got? >> it should be a song, julie. >> julie: that is what people were saying president bush, the next president is a democrat. there are no other options, there is only two. >> one exception we switched parties every eight years. nobody can hold on to power longer than that. >> julie: employment benefits people favor an extension? >> they would like to see an
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extension, it was funded into law by president obama. this is part of the trend. americans want to help their neighbors who have been hurt by this economic recession. they don't want to bail out companies that kept the money. >> julie: and the unemployment rate has reached 10.2% and as we've talked about, in some states in this country it's around 17%. so i would imagine that extension will very much needed for many people. >> absolutely. people are really concerned for the first time in a generation that it's not possible to find easily another job. >> julie: great to have you on. follow scott on twitter poll. >> gregg: never happy with what you have. >> julie: i'm saying the grass is always greener. >> gregg: just got married, didn't you. >> julie: no, i'm saying growing up.
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when my sister i had a candy, i wanted her candy. i always got it. >> gregg: by the way, what instrument did you play in the band? >> what instruments. i played for president bush in 1989 in the inaugural, i played the saxophone, violin, oboe. >> is there anything you didn't play? >> the drums. i can play those a little bit when i beat you in the head. >> gregg: she does do that. the budget crisis is now affecting why the state's cash shortage has many pet owners, look at those cute little ones. >> julie: i got two of those at home. coughing, wheezing, tightness in my chest came back- i knew i had to see my doctor. he told me i had choices in controller medicines. we chose symbicort.
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symbicort starts to improve my lung function within 15 minutes. that's important to me because i know the two medicines in symbicort are beginning to treat my symptoms and helping me take control of my asthma. and that makes symbicort a good choice for me. symbicort will not replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms. and should not be taken more than twice a day. symbicort contains formoterol. medicines like formoterol may increase the chance of asthma-related death. so, it is not for people whose asthma is well controlled on other asthma medicines. see your doctor if your asthma does not improve or gets worse. i know symbicort won't replace a rescue inhaler. within 15 minutes symbicort starts to improve my lung function and begins to treat my symptoms. that makes symbicort a good choice for me. you have choices. ask your doctor if symbicort is right for you. (announcer) if you cannot afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help.
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>> julie: top headlines, house democrats scoring a big victory in pushing through the sweeping health care overhaul bill last night. one trillion dollar, ten-year plan passed 220-215 vote. it needed 218 to pass. george casey is joining the call to send more troops to afghanistan to fight the taliban. president has been deciding on whether to send as many as 40,000 more troops to the war front. hurricane ida prompting a state of emergency. oida now churning at about 100 miles an hour and could get stronger. operating room has triggered floods in el salvador over the weekend killing 90 people.
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>> california's budget problems may be leaving animal shelters with life and death decisions. they cut the mandatory period from six days the down to three days. that is raising deep concerns. a lot of pet owners are concerned. casey is live in los angeles with more on that. >> good to see you. as you know the recession has hit california especially hard. we're talking the eighth largest economy in the whole world. just this year, governor arnold schwarzenegger and lawmakers had to shore up a $26 billion budget deficit. this was done by a lot of californians paying higher taxes but with cuts to programs and services ranging from education to pet sheters. california once required shelters to hold a stray for six days before putting the animal down, but now the mandatory holding period has been dropped to three days. the state says it will save $25 million a year but animal rights
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advocates you can't put a price on a life. >> perhaps somebody who is working three jobs to pay their mortgage might come home and find their animal missing and don't have the time to find their animal before the animal was destroyed. >> reporter: the governor says this does not require facilities to euthanize a pet after three days. it leaves the decision up to the individual shelters based on cash flow and space. >> i think what you'll find in most shelters, pets where they think there is a possible owner, they are going to go the extra mile. they will take the attitude there is a good possibility that person might be on vacation or might be coming back or looking for that pet. >> american humane society estimates that nearly ten million animals are euthanized every year and they say the numbers will continue to rise as more people are forced to give
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up pets for adoption because they lose their home or no longer can afford to feed and care for that animal. >> gregg: casey, thanks very much. >> julie: hurricane ida leaving dozens dead in the path. it's now headed directly to the united states. at least one state has already declared a state of emergency. where is it headed next and how long do we expect it to batter the u.s. ugcl)
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>> julie: fox nushz letter, i'm julie bandaras joined by gregg jarrett and hurricane i'd days strengthening to a category-2 storm, barrelling toward the gulf coast, governor bobby jindal declaring a state of emergency in louisiana and hurricane watch now, stretching from southeast earn louisiana all the way to the florida panhandle, domenica davis is keeping an eye on this from the fox news extreme weather center. hi. >> it is a powerful storm now, a cot gore 2 and went from being a tropical storm yesterday, to a category-2, by today. and here's the reason why: now, it is in a very warm pool of water where the temperatures are around 85, 84 degrees and has a lot of warm water to work with and is expected to stay a category-2 storm at least for the next 12 to 24 hours, and then we're going to see some weakening, as the -- it starts to move into the gulf and right now, it is about -- 500 miles to the south of the mouth of the
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mississippi river and we are projecting a landfall with the storm, as a tropical storm -- tropical cyclone by tuesday morning, early tuesday morning and you can see, it makes it all the way up to the north, outside of the gulf states as a category one and is expected to keep this strength for the next couple of days, and then, by tuesday, we'll see rapid weakening as it makes landfall. right now, we do have a -- it projected to make landfall between louisiana and the western part of florida. you can see, the cone is pretty wide here, and beyond that, it will become an extra-tropical cyclone and low as it pushes back into the atlantic. now, what we are looking at in terms of rain and wind are pretty significant with this storm. and we also have some hurricane watches to tell you about, i will update you on that, coming up at 5:30. >> julie: domenica davis, thank you very much. gregg. >> gregg: new developments to
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tell you about in the fort hood massacre, a key senate leader calling for an investigation of the deadly shootings there. connecticut senator joe lieberman telling chris wallace on "fox news sunday" he wants to find out whether the us army missed any warning signs leading up to the thursday attack. major nidal malik hasan suspected of killing 13 people and woundi and wounding 29 others at the army post in texas. catherine herridge with more. >> reporter: on the sunday talk shows fresh reaction on the shooting from congress and the military and no conclusions have been reached, we are told investigators are trying to discern whether internet postings which appear to justify suicide bombings were made by him and there are eyewitness accounts that he shouted the words, "allah akbaakbar" when h attacked the people and the
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chief said they are still gathering evidence. >> i don't want to say we missed it and we are starting to see anecdotes like this come out and we are encouraging our soldiers and leaders with information about the suspect to give it to the criminal investigation division and this fbi. >> reporter: the chairman of the senate homeland security committee who has been briefed on the shootings at fort hood tells "fox news sunday" he'll move forward on a congressional investigation to determine whether there were warning signs, hasan was becoming a radicalized muslim and the inse senator is questioning whether he is an example of homegrown terrorism. >> if the reports that we are receiving of various statements he made, the acts he took, our -- are valid, he had turned to islamist extremism and, therefore, if that is true, the murder of these 13 people, was a terrorist act.
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and, in fact, it was the most destructive terrorist act to be committed on american soil since 9/11. >> reporter: u.s. counterterrorism officials say no one is dismissing the possibility of overseas connections, adding the fbi and this intelligence community are actively and aggressively investigating whether hasan had connections overseas, and whether they were extremist in nature. this official emphasized that what we have heard from others including the senator. >> eric: -- is it is too early to say and they have not drawn conclusions on these important elements of the the investigation. >> gregg: catherine herridge live, thanks. >> julie: the house has spoken on health care reform, and democrats narrowly passing the version of the bill late last night, ought but one republican, voting against it. and, now the ball is, well, in the senate's court, julie kirtz is live in our washington bureau with more, hi. >> reporter: with the fight
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taken to the senate the president appeared in the rose garden and thanked house members who voted for the health care bill but warned the insurance companies are already pushing to bury health care legislation. >> president barack obama: now it falls on the u.s. senate to take the baton and bring the effort to the finish line on behalf though american people and i'm absolutely confident that they will. >> reporter: well, the vote in the house was close to 220 to 215 and one republican voted for the bill, 176 republicans and 39 democrats, voted against it. and nearly 2,000 pages long, the sweeping overhaul, the health care system, would cover 98% of americans and those who don't get insurance would face a fine and would create a public option and this government would sell insurance and would be paid for by cuts in medicare and a tax on upper income earners and today the number 3 house republican said the passage shows democrats didn't get the message from voters last week.
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>> i think the american people are deeply frustrated with a liberal splichestablishment in washington, d.c. that is ignoring their will and nancy pelosi said they were answering the call of history and i have to tell you, democrats keep ignoring the american people their party will be historien about a year. >> reporter: it is clear, any senate bill will be different from the house bill including how to pay for expanding health care coverage and harry reid is waiting for an official report on how much some of the options passed by two senate committees will cost and is looking at raising money by taxing cadillac health care plans and enjoy by many unions and house members are against that and it will be a battle in the conference. back to you. >> julie: julie kirtz, thank you very much and senate democrats face a series of hurdles as they put together their version of health care reform. which could be the toughest details for lawmakers to iron out?
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join me, kay bailey hutchison of texas, thanks for talking to us. the house has spoken and it is up to you and the senate. how far is this senate from passing a bill or will the republicans try and filibuster the legislation altogether? >> oh, julie, we'll do everything to try to slow the bill down, so the american people can see what is really in it. the tax increases, the mandates, the taking away the choice that people have, once we have that single payor system, it is going to take over the private insurance and people are not going to have the choices that they have today. it is a terrible bill and we'll do everything we can to stop it. >> julie: democrats are still trying to iron out whether the public option should include an opt-out clause for states and in other words, should employers be required to provide coverage to the workers. how will republicans in the senate receive that? >> well, what is not clear is,
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if you have a state -- do the people have the cuts to medicare that are in this bill, $400 billion in cuts to medicare? so, if they have the opt out will there be medicare advantage that 400,000 te tr,000 texans e and even if it were clear and you can opt out and wouldn't have the cuts, eventually the single payor system will envelope everybody. it happened in great britain and canada and we have to stop the single payor system and address health care reform which we all agree we need with lower costs, and more options for people to have affordable coverage. that is what we need. >> julie: one argument you make is even if the state opts out of the government health care plan the state will still face higher premiums and tax increases and democrats insist that is not true. >> of course they will because
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if you are taxing the insurance companies, which both the house and senate bill do it will raise premiums for everyone who buys insurance from that company. it is a no-brainer. of course there will be higher cost for everyone, to have health insurance now and then, of course, it will be more and more expensive, to have the private insurance, that you choose, so, you will go to that government option, that will clearly be less expensive and subsidized. >> julie: all right. >> that is just -- it's not going to work and we'll try and stop it. >> julie: and the decision whether or not to tax the rich or high-cost health care policies. >> the house bill of course taxes the rich and i... i think the real issue here is the tax on every individual. every individual will have to pay a tax if they don't have health care coverage. every small business will be fined if they don't have health care coverage for their employees. and at certain percentages, 65 and 72%.
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that means every cost is going up. every premium is going to go up, for people who are insured and people who don't have health care coverage are going to pay a fine anyway. and it is not the rich. it is everyone, so, it is taxes, mandates, cuts in medicare and it is going to eventually erode our system of health care, today. and put it into a big government-run plan. >> julie: julie kirtz was reporting about majority leader harry reid and him asking how much this bill will cost. he has yet to get a bill together he can take to the floor and now is asking, how much will it cost, in fact waiting for the congressional budget office to score various proposals he sent over and it will take time, are we looking at a vote any time in the near future. >> the majority leader reid has said we will start voting, first right after thanksgiving, and, then, he said as soon as possible. they are trying to get the
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score, but we know it is in the trillion-dollar range, that is what the house bill is and what the senate bill will end up being, a trillion dollars is what it will cost and you will have taxes and mandates, and government subsidies, more government growth, and this is going to add to our debt, eventually, while it is also tearing down our health insurance coverage. >> julie: all right, republican senator kay bailey hutchison of texas, thank you very much for talking to us. gregg. >> gregg: new details on the background of the man accused of shooting six people in a florida office building. the lawyer for jason rodriguez now claims his client was going through -- a quote, stress overload. the public defender depicting a man living with overwhelming problems, ranging from unemployment, to foreclosure, to bankruptcy, even to divorce. and 40-year-old rodriguez tarted an engineering firm in orlando, where he worked two years ago, before he was fired. one man was killed in the
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shooting. >> julie: construction of a permanent 9/11 national memorial beginning in shanksville, pennsylvania, the families of the victims aboard united flight 93 taking part in the ground-breaking ceremony honoring those who died. stopping the terrorist hijackers from crashing the plan into their intended target. >> this 9/11, september 11th will have a permanent impact on the families and our country. but it is projects like that that give us hope for the future when we can memorialize four unique individuals, whose brave actions presumably helped save the capitol building from destruction. >> the government plans to have the first phase of construction completed by the tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. >> >> gregg: the tragedy at fort hood raising the question of mental fitness of our troops on top of rigorous physical training, just how is this us army addressing the concerns of mental strain on soldiers? does the army -- the army has a program, called the
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comprehensive soldier fitness that evaluates soldiers confidential shelly and ghooidz guides them toward treatment and the plan is to identify and reduce the pressures of serving in the armed forces. will it work? jamie colby reports. >> jamie: could a new comprehensive soldier fitness assessment identified nidal malik hasan before he committed the bloodbath at fort hood. >> this is intended to get on the front end of this and prevent soldiers from having mental fitness challenges. to begin with. >> jamie: the assessment that monitors the physical and mental resilience of soldiers, became mandatory for all army personnel, just last week. in addition, to questions about religious beliefs, it asked participants to identify desires, impulses and emotion they wish to control and actual situation where they attempted to do something they might regret.
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>> we had good treatment programs and i saw where we were light was in the -- once they get the assessment they will be able to connect to on-line self-help modules that can provide them assistance in one of the specific areas. >> jamie: psychologist martin seligman is working with the army to teach them a positive psychology where you argue against catastrophic thoughts and put reality in perspective. >> when you learn resilience, depression goes down and becomes less likely and anxiety becomes less likely. and, it is highly relevant to post-traumatic stress disorder. >> gregg: thanks to jamie colby for that report. >> julie: the president hailing the house for passing the health care reform bill last night but is it the sort of change americans who voted for president obama one year ago were hoping for, what americans say, next.
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>> julie: latter look at the top stories, headlining this hour, president obama congratulating the iraqi parliament today, the iraqi government passing an
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electoral law that clears the way for a nationwide vote set for january and army chief of staff general george casey says the army is taking a hard look at itself to make sure some things like the fort hood rampage never happens again and went onto warn against jumping to conclusion about motives until the investigation ends. and, a hurricane watch now, stretches from grand isle, as ida strengthens to a category-2 storm and governor bobby jindal calling a state of emergency, in sell door it killed at least 91 people. >> gregg: a year ago president obama won the white house campaigning for change and now polls show many americans say they don't like the changes they are seeing. and the president's leads -- in the president's leadership from the promises he made on the campaign trail, michael goodwin is a fox news contributor and a columnist who wrote about this subject in today as paper.
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good to see you. in fact, let me pluck the operative quote from you "americans now believe obama was not honest -- not honest -- about how he'd govern." explain that. >> it is from a "gallup poll," a rather large sampling, over 1500 people, large for national poll and done nfor u.s.a. today and t asked, has the president kept his promises, that he made during the campaign. and it doesn't ask specifically about individual policies, it is kind of a general question about how you feel about how things are going, and only 48% now say that he has kept his promise and that is down from 65% in just april and is a huge decline and 48% say he has not kept his promises, and, a clear majority think he's 54% thinks he's more liberal than he said he would be. during the campaign.
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>> gregg: i wonder if the american public is fully taking into consideration and giving him a fair shake. on what he inherited. were he here, fair and balanced he'd say, wait i inherited two wars and a financial crisis that began a year ago during high predecessor's term and recessions play themselves out over the course of several years. you can't really genuinely blame me are all of these things and yet, american voters and those who were tested in polls are myopic, sometimes, aren't they. >> they can be but the clear distinction here is the poll is asking about obama's own words, in other words, the voters are being asked to assess, did he keep -- keeping the promises as president he made as a candidate and is not so much about the external circumstances as it is measured against the standard he set for himself and many people tell pollsters, the majority in this case thought he'd be a
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moderate, because that is what he said. he would scrub the budget line by line and i'm' posed to big government, i'll do bipartisanship and people say on those issues he has not kept that promise. and so i think it is just against the standard that he set for himself, that he has being measured, not against the circumstances he en hartd. >> gregg: does this, michael, help to explain why the president was unable last tuesday in virginia and new jersey to leverage what may be his personal popularity, as -- aside from his popularity on issues, why he was unable to leverage that into any meaningful political gain. >> i believe it does, gregg and i think that although the -- you know, everyone argues that these races are run on local issues, i think that is fundamentally true, but, sometimes it is very hard to separate. we talk about economic issues and unemployment, and it is hard to separate that from the national trend. particularly the statewide races
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and so i think, absolutely, what the poll reflects is a decline in trust people have for the president. and the president said he would be a moderate and he would be a centrist and now, people think he's not, that he is more liberal and i should point out in the finding of 54% think he is more liberal than he said he was, 34% of those, of the total sampling say he's very international liberal and it's not even a close call for a lot of people, and i think it does, then, cut into his ability to deliver the vote, for other candidates. such as corzine and creigh deeds in virginia and goes to the heart of the big signature policies. if you don't believe the president is doing what he said he'd do, then it makes it harder to trust him on any single issue that comes forward. >> gregg: as you argue, look, it was moderate conservative democrats as well as independents, that swung the opposite way, they were in his favor, a year ago. during the presidential election. and, then, they seemed to have left him.
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at least in terms of his democratic surrogates up for election. last tuesday night. does that -- is that a harbinger in your mind of midterms. >> well, ongoing a lot of it will depend on what happens to the economy. and -- >> gregg: it's not getting better. >> but it still could and now, i think what has happened is the independents are largely going against him and again, the poll shows that the only people who don't feel disappointed on this issue of liberal versus moderate are liberals. and they think he is more or less keeping his promises, and there has been a decline in every other group, republicans, n.s, moderate and conservative democrats and that has to hurt him, it will necessarily hurt the operator, and as we see in the health care votes, yesterday, it does make vulnerable those democrats in conservative districts or who won with a very narrow margin because in those districts independents make the deciding
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votes. >> gregg: michael goodwin, pulitzer prize winning journalist, and catch his article, i think is a "truth" ache, on good to see you. >> julie: he refused to get chemotherapy and actually hid from authorities when this court ordered him into treatment, how is daniel houser doing today? we have an update on his condition, next. (announcer) we understand. you need to save money.
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>> i'm domenica davis, we are tracking hurd i ing hurricane i miles south of the mississippi river and is expecting landfall early tuesday along the gulf states as a tropical cyclone and we do have hurricane watches up from new orleans all the way over from grand isle, louisiana to mexico beach, florida where you are looking at watches, and some winds will be increasing, along with heavy rain moving into the picture, by late
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tonight and then, through monday and into tuesday, so, here's the latest track on the storm and max winds, 100 miles per hour and moving to the northwest at 10 miles per hour and puts it by tuesday morning as a category one, or we could see, a strong tropical storm, by tuesday morning where it is expected to make landfall along the gulf from louisiana to the western part of florida. right now, the western part of florida is being favored for landfall. we will keep you posted with this latest on hurricane ida. ♪ >> bottom of the hour and time for the top of the news, the house has spoken and now the u.s. senate will be speaking on health care reform, the house narrowly passing an overhaul bill in a vote of 220 to 215. >> julie: and a long delayed election law which moves the way for national election to be held in january in afghanistan and the president says the development will help u.s. forces withdraw from iraq by
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next september. >> gregg: a deadly helicopter crash killing all three people on board, north of los angeles. the vintage military helicopter which was bound for riverside, suddenly hit power lines and burst into flames and all three people on board were killed. >> julie: the army chief of staff calling for more u.s. troops in afghanistan. general george casey supporting the request made by the u.s. commander, general stanley mcchrystal. >> i believe we need to put additional forces into afghan, to give general mcchrystal the ability to both dampen the successes of the taliban while we train the afghan security forces. >> julie: now, general casey did not specify exactly how many troops he thinks should be sent. general mcchrystal has asked for at least an additional 40,000 soldiers, advisors to the president say they are preparing three options for moving ford in afghanistan and all involve sending more troops.
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>> gregg: a botched nato airstrike may be to blame for the deaths of afghan soldiers and police and happened during a search for two american paratroopers missing in a taliban in fest aired yeah west of afghanistan. -- area west of afghanistan and the "friendly fire" incident further illustrates the growing danger and tension among military forces in the country. dana lewis shows us how volatile the situation has become for our troops. >> reporter: about as dangerously close to the pakistan border as anyone wants to fly, we are with america's top german in eastern afghanistan. major general says the pakistani army's recent force into frontier areas, is helping him squeeze the enemy. >> essentially firing in two direction and there is no sanctuary as secure as it once was. >> reporter: the taliban and al qaeda inhibit... and the general hands out purple hearts to six
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u.s. soldiers. who were recently wounded after being caught in what they described as a sophisticated, calculated ambush on their patrol and they say president obama needs send more u.s. troops to afghanistan. >> we don't have the manpower, to constantly patrol these areas and it is not going to change. >> reporter: the general describes a 30% increase in violence in the last year in eastern afghanistan. up to 80% of insurgents are homegrown and afghans directed by terrorist networks across the pakistani border and says more u.s. troops are needed but afghans need to leave the security effort or there is a danger america will be seen as an occupation force and in the middle of our talk, the enemy attacks. >> and the next thing is it is about their army and their police and their. [explosion) >> reporter: in coming mortars and the siren sounds than general is told by his security team it is time to go and we head for a nearby bomb shelter
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and the outer wall where u.s. troops are returning fire. [gunfire]. >> reporter: the general's helicopters have to lift off without him and several mortars were fired into our base while we did the interview and it was close over the ridge line. >> reporter: did the enemy know the general was coming? >> for the greatest part, the afghanistan national security force are working with us but you have to be concerned because we have areas and we have units where they have been infiltrated. >> reporter: he's at the center of what he calls a complicated, multi-layered counterinsurgency fight. and even a two star general can be a target. in eastern afghanistan, dana lewis, fox news. >> julie: somali pirates now threatening to punish a pair of british captives if fellow pirates are not freed, paul and rachel chandler were kidnapped on their yacht 16 days ago and
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sources claim they are held in a village north of the somali capitol and are promising to hurt them if 7 comrade being held aboard a german warship are not released. european security sources say a hostage swap for them is not being considered. >> gregg: police arresting a suspect in a deadly bar shooting in the ski town of vail, colorado and one person was kid and three wounded and witnesses say a man was escorted out of the bar and suddenly he pulled a gun and opened fire. and the gunman walked back into the building and fired several more shots. police have arrested 63-year-old richard morrow, described as a vail resident and regular haiti bar. >> julie: minnesota boy gains national attention when he fled tow state to avoid chemotherapy, daniel houser and his mother tried to flee the country and returned and agreed to the court ordered treatment and now his family says he is cancer free
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and laura ingle is live in our new york newsroom. >> reporter: julie, danny houser and his family have made no secret of the fact they don't believe in chemotherapy and radiation but it seems as though the cancer fighting methods may have worked and now the family wants all legal action against them dropped and their story became national news when the 13-year-old fled minnesota with his mother, after refusing to continue chemotherapy treatment based on the family's religion and their desire to seek out natural remedies and he was diagnosed with hodgkin's lymphoma in january and had one treatment and stopped and dane's doctor reported the housers to brown county family services when they failed to continue these chemo treatments and a judge reeled ruled he was being medically neglected and ordered for the treatments to continue and a warn was issued for colleen houser's arrest, the mother in they and many believe mother and son were heading to mexico for alternative treatment and a lawyer helped work out this deal to help them return to
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minnesota where he later received the rest of his stream and the chemotherapy and radiation targeted dan is a tumor, and the family claims he is now in remission. >> this is the emotional part. the stress was horrendous on him, he couldn't handle it. >> it was a lot. don't have to put it into me any more. leave us alone. >> reporter: in a statement issued to fox, children's hospital of minnesota said given the successful completion of treatment, daniel has a 95% chance of being cured, at this point. the judge who ordered him to have the chemo and radiation says he want to see a written statement from brown county family services and from the doctor treating canny, confirming that he has completed treatment before he dismiss the case. >> julie: laura ingle, thank you very much. gre gregg. >> gregg: i somber occasion for three hikers detained in iran since july, what friends, family and supporters around the world are doing to remember the u.c.
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>> gregg: a sad milestone for hikers held in captivity in iran, many marking 100 days, today since three university of california grads vanished, and supporters are holding what they are calling vigils of hope across this united states and around the world, to mark the occasion, the three accidentally crossed into an unmarked border between iran and iraq, they were later captured by iranian soldiers and now are held in iran's notorious evan prison and hillary clinton saying the u.s. government is doing everything it can to rescue and secure their release.
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>> julie: the supreme court set to take up the issue of locking up juvenile criminals for life. critics argue such sentences constitute cruel and unusual punishment. >> gregg: that's right, take the case of joe sullivan who received a life sentence for raping an elderly woman, he was 13 when he committed the crime and terence graham also sentenced to life behind bars, in his case, he was convicted of armed robbery, that he committed when he was 16 and 17 years old and let's bring in our legal panel, quiche sha evan is a former prosecutor and a defense attorney and good to see you both keisha, what is cruel and unusual punishment. >> i think in this particular case because they are juveniles, not talking about adults, yes, they commit adult crimes and should do adult time but in these instances the goal of the juvenile justice system is to
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rehabilitate and i think life without parole is definitely -- basically saying you know what you did wrong, there is no rehabilitation, you are spending the rest of your life in prison. >> julie: graham is 22 and sullivan 33, in florida prisons which hold about 70% of juvenile defendants that are locked up for life and we are the only country that lock up juvenile defendants for life and that is what we are arguing here, it is cruel and unusual, in other words, unconstitutional. do you agree. >> no, i don't at all. first of all, the phrase, cruel and unusual punishment is in the u.s. constitution, not the french constitution. or the european union constitution. and, we have a different problem here in the u.s., than the rest of europe. for instance, juvenile crime is much higher in the u.s., between 1985 and 2005, 48,000 juvenile homicides in that same period of time, 100,000 rapes committed by juveniles and there is an enormous amount of extremely violent crime and we have to respond to that with tough sentences. we're not like western europe
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and we have the right to enact our own laws. >> gregg: somebody who commits a crime, armed robbery at 13, 14 years old, my goodness, their mental acutety is not there. and they are immature and have not developed emotionally and intellectually and how can you really impose a permanent sentence on them when they have so much about them that they can change. >> that is the problem. you can't and paul and i had the discussion, and -- the brain is not finished developing with regard to decision making abilities until age 25 and how can we hold them accountable and say they have the correct mens rea and -- >> gregg: meaning mental capacity. >> mental capacity. >> gregg: and we have had the discussion and disagree strongly on it and let me give you an example, here's one case out there, 14-year-old girl, ashley jones, she and her boyfriend shot her grandfather an stabbed him to death and then shot an aunt three times and stabbed his
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sister ten times and then, covered them in lighter fluid and set them on fire. age, 14. you want her in your neighborhood to be rehabilitated? i don't want her in my neighborhood and i don't know if you will take her into your neighborhood. >> you are right, but let's get to the issue of -- you mentioned the juvenile committing offenses in the u.s. is higher and go to that issue and fix the problem before they are caught up in that -- >> you know something with this person, it is too late. she's encouragible and i want her in -- in coverageable and if the -- incorrigible, and if they want to to rehabilitate her -- >> she was 14 years old and there are only 9 people currently serving life sentence force crimes they committed when they were 13 and it changes, if they are nonhomicidal crimes, do you treat them differently? not to say rape is not a serious crime but if it's not murder do
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they not deserve to be in jail for the rest of their lives. >> i don't think they deserve to be in jail, and if it is another -- >> homicide or nonhomicide, both or -- >> i would say, for homicide, cases they -- if you are going to do life without parole, that is fine, but i don't think it should be the case where it is a nonmurderous offense. i think that, okay, yeah -- >> the real question is getting back to what the supreme court will argue tomorrow, they are really talk about, is this unconstitutional? and, in the country, we have been doing this for years, deciding to sentence juveniles to harsh sentences and in terms of cruel and unusual punishment the founding fathers endorsed flogging the death penalty and you cannot imagine, those punishments considered constitutional. >> gregg: i have a feeling, the supreme court wouldn't have take then case unless they intended to overturn it and, my sense is, since the supreme court, not that long ago, said an 8th amendment cruel and unusual
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violation, to kill juveniles i have a feeling they'll say the same thing with life sentences. >> i do, too and there needs to be uniformity amongst all of the states with regard to you've nice, because, we are supposed to rehabilitate them -- juveniles because we are supposed to rehabilitate them and the courts are known to be the parents of the juvenile. >> where do you draw this line, age 16 or 17, you have a 17-year-old who stabs someone repeatedly an rapesal the and sets them on fire and the u.s. supreme court will tell florida you cannot send that person to jail for life? i don't know, gregg, the supreme court will overturn it because i think it will set you a dangerous precedent. >> that is why there is parole, go before the parole board and they are not rehabilitated, they are not, you know, eligible to go back -- >> what happens -- and that is always the problem with parole, once you say they are parole-eligible they are let out too soon, because the heinousness of their crime is forgotten and age 22 or 23 they are back on the street, killing or raping again. >> julie: what is wrong with our
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justice system that says we have a higher crime rate among juveniles than other countries and they don't put that are kids away for life. >> that is not our criminal justice system, that or is society, and i think we're dealing with large numbers of very different ethnic groups and dealing with huge numbers of people with economic des parrot and that has -- des parrot and we have gun laws that allow guns to be easily accessible and -- >> gregg: the disparity i remember the gace of richard grissom, who murdered when he was a young teenager and let him out in his 20 and he promptly became a serial killer and they let a killer who was a juvenile out and now, the disparity here in the two cases before the supreme court, are two kids who didn't kill and are getting life sentences. >> right. and i don't think that is fair. and i think you need to look at each case on a case by case basis, and, as far as the --
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what is this problem, julie where you mentioned, i think a lot of it has to do with parents not properly raising their children and taking responsibilities for what is going on with in the juvenile community. my husband is a juvenile detective and he sees it all the time, and we think the court issue is where are going wrong raising or children gfrmtings should they be p-- >> gregg: but if they rape and kill, should they be punished. should unelected judges make the decision or made by an elected legislature and that is one of the issues, do you want the judges making the decisions and if they want harsh sentences, give them harsh sentences. >> gregg: wait and see, you think they will not overturn it and i think they will and we'll have you back, when the decision comes down. thank you very much. >> legal news, mcdonald's and the minnesota hamburger parlor turning done the heat on a legal dispute, had to do with
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mcdonald's add phrase, whose your pate, attorneys for the lion's tap in eden prairie say they came up with the slogan four years ago and applied tor a federal trademark and here's mcdonald's use of the same phrase, the new angus burger ad campaign and they reached a settlement and both sides are keeping the terms of the agreement under wraps. >> gregg: wouldn't you look one of those. >> julie: oh, delicious gunshot wound she's talking about how hungry she is. >> julie: i'll take the fries. >> gregg: food allergies, speak ing of which can be fatal and what about intolerance and most americans don't know this difference and we'll break it done for you, coming up knicks. -- next.
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>> gregg: a "fox news alert."
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you see ida. there is a rare -- radar on our screen and ida is now a category-2 storm, it is making its way across the gulf of mexico, and louisiana governor bobby jindal declared a state of emergency in his state, as the u.s. coast guard is bracing for the arrival of hurricane ida and a watch is in effect from southeastern louisiana, to the florida panhandle, and the -- meaning hurricane conditions are possible in the next day-and-a-half, new orleans, not included in the watch area, so that is good news. >> julie: a study finds most americans know food allergies can be fatal and say they can even recognize the symptoms. >> gregg: but if a different -- a different story when it comes to telling the difference between food allergies and intolerance, do you know the difference? let's bring in dr. terry peterson with the lenoxville
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hospital in mt. sinai center, what is the difference. >> a food allergy is more serious and can be life-threatening and the immune system recognizes the food as harmful and makes antibodies against the food and the next time you ingest it you have a severe reaction, and you can have tingling of the mouth and swelling of the throat and lips, and swelling of the lungs and airwaves, and actually can cause death and why some people may confuse it it with food intolerance, it causes news yeah, cramping and diarrhea. >> julie: like being lactose intolerantly and if you have an upset stomach by drinking milk should you assume you have a intolerance to milk, is there a difference between food intolerance and being lactose intolerance. >> the difference between intolerance and internallialler there is an enzyme missing in they digestive system and you
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get cramping and bloating and the symptoms like the allergy but it is much less serious an nonlife-threatening. >> gregg: if you have the symptoms of either an al laern or an intolerance and you a -- allergy or an intolerance, what do you do, see your doctor. >> see an allergist and they'll do skin testing and if it's an allergy it will react with the skin testing and if you have an allergy, the key thing is to avoid the food altogether, even trace amounts will trigger a reaction. and with intolerance you can have a little and you need learn your threshold as to what you can handle. >> julie: parents, it must be a nightmare. >> it is awful. >> julie: if you have a symptom and no what you are feeling and think you have a good idea of whether or not this is just in digestion or an allergy, which is more severe and how do parents know this difference in their children, you don't want to rush your child, every time something happens, to the doctor. >> with the child you get the classic symptoms, hives or lips
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get big an wheeze and it is a challenge for parents and kids want to go to birthday party and the common allergies are milk and eggs, a birthday cake ingredient and parents have to be careful when kids eat out of the house. >> gregg: do children build up a tolerance so the previous allergy, to, let's say for example, eggs, abates over time, and they can tolerate it. >> well, actually, they'll outgrow it. i don't know if it is necessarily a tolerance. but their immune systems stops becoming engaged by the food. >> gregg: why? >> not understood, actually. >> gregg: i just assumed the a little bit of egg you get in everything, bread and cakes and so forth, the body eventually gets used to it. and so then you can have, you know, a triple-egg omelette. >> perhaps, that is what you could call a tolerance and typically, as the immune system matures, it just doesn't react to those. >> gregg: no medications. >> nothing cures it but if you have an allergic reaction treat
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with antihistamines or an epinephri epinephrine epinephrine -- injection. >> julie: coming up, a story, why the man who captured the python is now in big trouble with the law for it. apparently the reptile is not the only "snake" in the story. >> gregg: big python, big trouble. if you're taking 8 extra-strength tylenol...
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>> julie: you may remember the story of a florida man who captured a 14 foot ber music python from a storm drain in july. let me remind you with the video. well, it turns out, it was all a hoax. >> gregg: really. >> julie: justin matthews a professional animal trapper said he set it up. >> julie: he said he purchased and released the python, to draw attention to the growing problem of irresponsible pet ownership. and that is a great idea! and press now charging him with misoozing the 911 system and maintaining captive wildlife in an unsafe manner. >> julie: if you capture anything... a python. >> gregg: i hate snakes. >> julie: go for a gerbil. >> gregg: that's it for us, "fox


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